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I noted two users with this installed on their systems today. Neither had permission to do so. One of the two had permission to use remote control, but the company provided LogMeIn, not Jump.
Anyone use Jump and know how it stacks up to LogMeIn? I’m trying to wrap my head around why anyone would NOT want to use LogMeIn, considering I’ve already paid for it and it’s already on their system.
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May 4, 2012 12:02 UTC
Assuming iPad?
I know some of the gestures are a little different in Jump, but I haven’t used it in over a year, so it may have been updated a lot. It uses RDP, so you would need to either be on a network with the device or have a VPN to it, whereas LMI should work from anywhere. Not sure of any benefits Jump would have other than just the method of connection (may connect faster when on the local network).
Jump would also be better for connecting to a terminal server.
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May 4, 2012 12:02 UTC
Assuming iPad?
I know some of the gestures are a little different in Jump, but I haven’t used it in over a year, so it may have been updated a lot. It uses RDP, so you would need to either be on a network with the device or have a VPN to it, whereas LMI should work from anywhere. Not sure of any benefits Jump would have other than just the method of connection (may connect faster when on the local network).
Jump would also be better for connecting to a terminal server.
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May 4, 2012 12:03 UTC
Jump Desktop is an RDP client.
I don’t like Log Me In. Anyone who has Windows Pro or above can spend a few minutes with their router and get way better performance than paying for LogMeIn.
Why pay for something that is built freely into the system that offers lower performance and has a cost?
RDP performance will be lightyears ahead of Log Me In. You have to do some work on port forwarding and possibly changing the RDP port for each machine to give everyone access to their individual machines.
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May 4, 2012 12:09 UTC
I haven’t found LMI to have an performance hits over traditional RDP. They also have a không lấy phí version of LMI. There’s also much less work to do getting LMI to work over a firewall. For multiple machines, I’m not going through the headache of configuring RDP on each and then port forwarding.
Ok, sounds like Jump still requires port forwarding? I thought looking their website that you can link it to a gmail account and somehow get away from the need to port fwd with traditional RDP?
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May 4, 2012 12:19 UTC
The best solution will always be VPN/RDP, with LMI I just need to compromize your LMI account and I own your network. This in contrast to a VPN with 2 factor and an RDP session…
That being said, not everyone has the resources to develop a không lấy phí VPN solution with không lấy phí 2 factor and RDP. The resourcesinvolvedare technical know how and time. As well depending on the environment you may need to pay someone to come in.
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May 4, 2012 12:44 UTC
The best solution will always be VPN/RDP, with LMI I just need to compromize your LMI account and I own your network. This in contrast to a VPN with 2 factor and an RDP session…
That being said, not everyone has the resources to develop a không lấy phí VPN solution with không lấy phí 2 factor and RDP. The resourcesinvolvedare technical know how and time. As well depending on the environment you may need to pay someone to come in.
Compromise the VPN and you’ve got the same thing. With LMI, you still need to get into each individual machine after getting into the account. Three failures and you’re locked out. LMI logs the username and IP address of any sessions, I pull these and review monthly.
My experiences w/ VPN have never been good. The encryption overhead always seems to kill any available bandwidth for doing anything. Granted, that’s always been using old school PPTP.
As for resources, it’s just me and 100+ users the day job and 10-15 personal clients. LMI is cheap, quick, easy, and secure enough for most places.
I’m gonna have to try Jump to see how she works. I’m pretty sure their website indicated you didn’t need to tweak port fwd’ing on the fw to get through, but I could’ve read that wrong.
Whew! TGIF!
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May 4, 2012 12:46 UTC
Sorry guys, didn’t mean to go into defense mode. I appreciate all your opinions. I’m more ticked off this user isn’t following proper channels for remote control access. He has a habit of dancing to the tune of his own drum…
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May 4, 2012 12:51 UTC
Lock down his workstation.
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May 4, 2012 13:10 UTC
We use LMI for the reasons you stated above. It is simple to setup, mostly không lấy phí, and just plain works. It is as secure as I feel is necessary. RDP clients are just a pain to work with. RDP is not the same as a LMI session, RDP cannot allow the user and remote to be on the same time and see each other. RDP locks the console where LMI does not. Big help if you are trying to have a user show you something, or you show them something.
As to the original question, I have not used Jump, again because I am not a fan of RDP and how it works.
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DigitalBlacksmith
May 4, 2012 13:33 UTC
The best solution will always be VPN/RDP, with LMI I just need to compromize your LMI account and I own your network. This in contrast to a VPN with 2 factor and an RDP session…
That being said, not everyone has the resources to develop a không lấy phí VPN solution with không lấy phí 2 factor and RDP. The resourcesinvolvedare technical know how and time. As well depending on the environment you may need to pay someone to come in.
Compromise the VPN and you’ve got the same thing. With LMI, you still need to get into each individual machine after getting into the account. Three failures and you’re locked out. LMI logs the username and IP address of any sessions, I pull these and review monthly.
My experiences w/ VPN have never been good. The encryption overhead always seems to kill any available bandwidth for doing anything. Granted, that’s always been using old school PPTP.
As for resources, it’s just me and 100+ users the day job and 10-15 personal clients. LMI is cheap, quick, easy, and secure enough for most places.
I’m gonna have to try Jump to see how she works. I’m pretty sure their website indicated you didn’t need to tweak port fwd’ing on the fw to get through, but I could’ve read that wrong.
Whew! TGIF!
Yes because LMI doesnt encrypt all. SSL VPN doesnt serve up just one port.
LMI is great for a home user, it is great for doing some things like rescue. Fantastic product.
However, for a business, it just is to expensive when you have an in-house IT guy.
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May 4, 2012 13:44 UTC
Yes because LMI doesnt encrypt all. SSL VPN doesnt serve up just one port.
LMI is great for a home user, it is great for doing some things like rescue. Fantastic product.
However, for a business, it just is to expensive when you have an in-house IT guy.
Getting quite a ways off of the original post, but what makes you think LMI doesn’t encrypt all? This paper seems to say otherwise:
https://secure.logmein.com/welcome/documentation/EN/pdf/common/LogMeIn_SecurityWhitepaper.pdf
It’s hardly an expensive solution – you could use LMI không lấy phí for a small business, even paying for all kinds of stuff, I’m paying less than $300/yr for Central and $20/yr for Ignition, then paid a one time up front cost of $30 for Ignition for iOS. For the ease of accessing any computer in the company within seconds, that certainly is worth it for this one-man IT shop.
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May 4, 2012 13:56 UTC
LMI DOES encrypt. https://secure.logmein.com/products/pro/security.aspx
https://secure.logmein.com/welcome/documentation/EN/pdf/common/LogMeIn_SecurityWhitepaper.pdf
I actually feel much more secure over my LMI connections than PPTP connections.
LMI Pro can get pricey, but for a small IT shop with just me, it’s worth every penny. I want to say we spend around $4k/yr. That’s a heck of a lot cheaper than a second body toàn thân’s wages as it allows me to be in many places once. Are there other không lấy phí alternatives, yes? I could, and HAVE managed the network with LMI Free. We chose to upgrade for remote printing, some monitoring capabilities, and to add LMI Central which allows me to share remote access to other users.
As a one-man shop, LMI has allowed me to not piece meal other RDP and VPN products together to get remote access for me, and then remote access for end users. The logging ability is great, too. I know exactly which PCs were touched via LMI and by which users and for how long.
If LMI Pro and Central are too expensive, do what I do personally. I purchased a single LMI Pro license and have LMI Free installed all clients. When I need Pro features, I remove the Pro subscription from the currently assigned PC, which reverts it back to a không lấy phí subscription. Then I assign the Pro license to the PC I need to have it.
With LMI Pro, I can reboot a PC into safe mode with limited network access. This is great for malware removal as booting into normal safe mode, I still need to be there in front of the box. Can I reboot in safe mode with RDP? I suppose I could look up the shutdown /? command line util, but I don’t have time for that.
The last time I used a VNC product as my remote control solution was when I noticed someone had taken control of the VNC connection while I was sitting in front of the server. That has never happened with LMI.
LMI Central runs $300. LMI Free, is không lấy phí. It’s a great product that just works out of the box. You can spend as little or as much as you like on it. It all depends on what you want to do. LMI is so much more than being just good for a home user. I couldn’t do my job efficiently without it. I’ve used RDP and VPN back in the early 2000’s. I’ll trade that for LMI anyday.
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May 4, 2012 14:01 UTC
It’s hardly an expensive solution – you could use LMI không lấy phí for a small business, even paying for all kinds of stuff, I’m paying less than $300/yr for Central and $20/yr for Ignition, then paid a one time up front cost of $30 for Ignition for iOS. For the ease of accessing any computer in the company within seconds, that certainly is worth it for this one-man IT shop.
EXACTLY! I get a call from an end user with a question. While talking with them on my iPhone, I:
1. Pull off the road because I NEVER LMI while driving…
2. Pull up LMI Ignition on my iPhone.
3. Dial into their PC, which, BTW, is NOT on the corporate LAN but is Starbucks someone across the country from me.
4. See that it’s a simple checkbox they are missing.
5. Be done with it in <5 minutes.
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I wait for them to connect to the VPN. I wait for my iPhone to connect to the VPN. I pray that RDP works over these two links and that my iPhone’s data connection can sustain it.
Now I don’t even have to purchase LMI Ignition, they have an iOS client for không lấy phí. And it’s still secured (see white paper links above).
Sorry, I know we’re off post here, but LMI has been my life saver for years. I have Ignition on my desktop ($30/yr) and can open up a number of different workstations in seconds. It really does not get much easier than this unless I cloned myself.
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May 4, 2012 14:26 UTC
sorry was missing the _sarcasm_ tag. The point being that if the reasoning for not using a VPN solution is that encryption slows things down then the reasoning is flawed as LMI uses encryption.
why do we keep referencing PPTP? Do people still use that? If we are using PPTP for an argument then I would be using VNC for the remote desktop argument. Both are decades out of date. Even though VNC can be tuned to do some really cool stuff.
I don’t think we are OT, what I am trying to bring up here is that, if you are looking switching solutions for a better one, brush up on your VPN knowledge and see what will work for your company. Some of the built in SSL VPNs (fortigate) have the option to do a web portal. You can have your user hit the web portal and click on their assigned desktop.
Pricing:
Ignition $40 per user per year
Pro-$44 $50 per user per year
VPN+RDP Free unless you need to purchase VPN Licensing for your environment.
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May 4, 2012 14:32 UTC
1. Pull off the road because I NEVER LMI while driving…
2. Pull up LMI Ignition on my iPhone.
3. Dial into their PC, which, BTW, is NOT on the corporate LAN but is Starbucks someone across the country from me.
4. See that it’s a simple checkbox they are missing.
5. Be done with it in <5 minutes.
OR
I wait for them to connect to the VPN. I wait for my iPhone to connect to the VPN. I pray that RDP works over these two links and that my iPhone’s data connection can sustain it.
Now I don’t even have to purchase LMI Ignition, they have an iOS client for không lấy phí. And it’s still secured (see white paper links above).
Sorry, I know we’re off post here, but LMI has been my life saver for years. I have Ignition on my desktop ($30/yr) and can open up a number of different workstations in seconds. It really does not get much easier than this unless I cloned myself.
LMI rescue is fantastic, I wont argue that point, but the OT is regarding LMI vs Jump Desktop, assuming end users needing access to an internal resource.
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May 4, 2012 14:40 UTC
Yes, still use PPTP and XP here. Ignition and Pro aren’t required, just nice to haves for an admin. you can go completely không lấy phí with LMI.
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May 4, 2012 14:41 UTC
Truthfully, I’m the only one using PPTP, and that’s just to temporarily join a machine to the domain while offsite. LMI has replaced our need for VPN.
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May 4, 2012 22:15 UTC
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Hi,
I work on the Jump Desktop app. I just wanted to say that Jump is a RDP and VNC client. It also has an optional automatic setup component which makes it super-easy to connect to your machines without the need to do any port forwarding or looking up IP addresses. Automatic setup lets you connect to your RDP / VNC servers using just your email address. Take a look this for more info: http://jumpdesktop.com/go
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Dec 3, 2013 21:32 UTC
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Do either of these RD apps have a way to wake a remote PC from sleep? I like having remote access but don’t want to have it running all day when I only use it occasionally.
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